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8 years 9 months ago #2151 by Todd
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photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA19828

photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA19829
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8 years 9 months ago - 8 years 9 months ago #2157 by Dawn
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Todd, those are interesting images. The first one, PIA19828, seems to be a piece of deposition? (check me on that!) formed of many thin layers of mineral. The overall shape suggests to me that it formed around a stationary object, then the entire piece that we see broke loose? Do you know enough about geology to correct/confirm?

The second image is, frankly, fabricated (in my opinion) Look closely at the tops of the stacked images, especially from the center one, over to the far right. The sand-flow-past-the-rock part--it's repeated in the last 3 images. The small squared-off rock is missing from the middle image, but other than that, the tops of those images are pretty much the same.. I ran the image through FotoForensics and noted that the entire image is very "noisy". I'm thinking this whole montage was cooked up to cover what was really on the top of that little rock shelf.

What does everyone else think of these? I want to work on PIA19829 some more, but that was my first impression.
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8 years 9 months ago #2158 by Dawn
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I just put it in Paint right quick so I could draw a box around it, this is PIA19829
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8 years 9 months ago #2170 by Todd
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When it comes to deposition responsible for creating "Lamoose", you are probably right on the money. Unless it's an artifact, like a piece of road or sidewalk, for example. The image of "Missoula" is a mosaic made of Sol 1031 MAHLI cam images . Since it's a mosaic of several images, the effect you are seeing is a variance in focal length and focal ratio combined in one image.
msl-scicorner.jpl.nasa.gov/Instruments/MAHLI/
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8 years 9 months ago #2173 by Todd
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..and by the way, I think "Missoula" is two geologic layers with remnants of a destroyed civilization in the middle. This is why that center material kind of looks like gum stuck between the road and a shoe. All that is left in the layer there, are the decayed elements of what was once a civilization. Over time it has broken down and decayed leaving the unusual holes and spaces that don't appear to be volcanic in nature. Who knows, there are perhaps several civilizations which have been compiled with the geologic record underground over perhaps billions of years. This may not be the same civilization with which we see potentially intact ruins on the surface either. :)
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